tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386391.post7382561667383400083..comments2023-09-19T05:17:11.177-07:00Comments on ginkworld.net' blog: community and familyjohn o'keefehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10028206413718784285noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386391.post-65119308403705776382007-08-10T07:10:00.000-07:002007-08-10T07:10:00.000-07:00We are all going to get hurt in ministry sooner or...We are all going to get hurt in ministry sooner or later. I think what hurts most is when the curtain is pulled away and we see the frauds among us, those that steal, covet and abuse people. The good news is they usually don't last very long. They move up into the denomination's hierarchy or get a seminary position?!rdnakx250https://www.blogger.com/profile/05482944551904142704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386391.post-32421141324397518922007-07-31T16:00:00.000-07:002007-07-31T16:00:00.000-07:00I can't believe you've been talking to GFox. I was...I can't believe you've been talking to GFox. I was contemplating that same program and then decided the timing wasn't right and maybe not the school. I had deep problems with some of the institutional statements. But if I knew you might be there then....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193232846306022625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386391.post-2027990011928467802007-07-21T07:04:00.000-07:002007-07-21T07:04:00.000-07:00Thx john, i missinterpreted your words. due to my ...Thx john, i missinterpreted your words. due to my bad english/translation i guess. i'm clear now.<BR/><BR/>keep up the good work... y Olé !!!<BR/><BR/>yványvánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14054658341680041344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386391.post-41748322815761569752007-07-20T07:08:00.000-07:002007-07-20T07:08:00.000-07:00yvan,let me see if i can explain better :)the idea...yvan,<BR/><BR/>let me see if i can explain better :)<BR/><BR/>the idea, as i see it, from jesus is that we are to love "others" - those outside the community [when i say "outside the community" i am speaking of those "outside the church" if you will] as we love ourselves - meaning? i believe it tells us that we treat everyone with respect and grace - everyone, regardless of who we "think" they john o'keefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10028206413718784285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386391.post-6653360500688464502007-07-20T05:09:00.000-07:002007-07-20T05:09:00.000-07:00John, thanks for the insight. I strongly agree wit...John, thanks for the insight. I strongly agree with you.<BR/><BR/>However, can you elaborate more on the two levels of love: 1 for the larger community of believers and 1 for the local church. Wouldn't that be making a difference of two types of church? Am I not to love the ones that not gather with me every month, the same way I love the one who does?<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for your insight.<BR/yvánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14054658341680041344noreply@blogger.com